XX CLOSED AL3 3HB Junction9Exotic (former Waggon & Horses)

Victor23 · Post by **Victor23** » Sun Jan 08, 2017 11:29 am

But click on the "daily rota" and one goes nowhere?

pleasure_seeker · Post by **pleasure_seeker** » Sun Jan 08, 2017 3:42 pm

Still listed as a venue on the Tease site also.

silverlink · Post by **silverlink** » Sun Jan 08, 2017 5:19 pm

The website was inactive since last summer. It may be in the process of being revamped, hence the 2017 date.

Scallywag · Post by **Scallywag** » Sun Jan 08, 2017 5:51 pm

Victor23 wrote:But click on the "daily rota" and one goes nowhere?

Yes I tried each option and a few did work - Contact Us, Recruitment and Find Us.

Hopefully as silverlink says, the website is part way being updated.

I-full · Post by **I-full** » Tue Jan 10, 2017 12:09 am

From the website "WE ARE EASILY ACCESSIBLE FROM THE M1 MOTORWAY (500 YEARS TOWARDS DUNSTABLE FROM J9), SO PLEASE FEEL FREE TO DROP IN "

Seems we need a time machine to partake of the W&H again...

gnok · Post by **gnok** » Tue Jan 10, 2017 5:00 pm

I-full wrote:From the website "WE ARE EASILY ACCESSIBLE FROM THE M1 MOTORWAY (500 YEARS TOWARDS DUNSTABLE FROM J9)

An optimistic forecast that they hope to be still running in 2517? There were very few customers when I last visited, and it is the most difficult place to visit using public transport, I hope it stays open, but I won't be holding my breath.

cockedHat · Post by **cockedHat** » Wed Jan 18, 2017 8:43 pm

The web site is 'currently offline', so not looking good, despite its fairly recent revamp!

silverlink · Post by **silverlink** » Fri Feb 17, 2017 7:07 pm

The venue has definitely not closed but it is only open three days a week now: Thursday, Friday and Saturday. The website is completely dead.

Victor23 · Post by **Victor23** » Fri Feb 17, 2017 10:11 pm

Typically the Tease website still gives the original opening times. If someone makes a trip specially to visit the venue and find it's closed they'll less likely to try again.

Post by **zante** » Mon Mar 20, 2017 10:24 pm

Tease website became very unreliable after Janice passed away.

This place's website is down because they haven't paid the url renewal fee due in Jan...

It IS open every time I drive past...

TS_Jabroni · Post by **TS_Jabroni** » Sun Jun 04, 2017 6:11 pm

Any confirmation on the status of this? Driving by in a couple of weeks for work and thought that I might pop in - don't want to waste the (admittedly small) detour...

Post by **zante** » Thu Aug 31, 2017 8:51 pm

Open Thur, Fri Sat, from 7pm I think

pleasure_seeker · Post by **pleasure_seeker** » Sat Oct 13, 2018 12:52 pm

This place is no longer on the Tease website.

I presume that means they are relying solely on their own recruits now.

buntycitron · Post by **buntycitron** » Sat Dec 01, 2018 1:59 pm

any updates on opening hours please

buntycitron · Post by **buntycitron** » Thu Dec 20, 2018 9:21 pm

I understand they have dancers on tomorrow from 1pm
might check it out

buntycitron · Post by **buntycitron** » Wed Mar 13, 2019 11:03 pm

anyone know if this place is still operating

Post by **zante** » Sun Apr 07, 2019 1:50 pm

Yes, it is.

buntycitron · Post by **buntycitron** » Wed Apr 10, 2019 9:11 pm

any ideas of what days/hours?
anything online?
cheers

TS_Jabroni · Post by **TS_Jabroni** » Tue Apr 23, 2019 8:41 pm

I'm going past here this weekend. I'll have a look.

TS_Jabroni · Post by **TS_Jabroni** » Fri Apr 26, 2019 1:48 pm

Just drove by. Closed with no signs saying when it's open.

Post by **zante** » Sat Jun 22, 2019 4:21 pm

I think it's Thur Fri Sat 7 till 11.

gnok · Post by **gnok** » Sat Jun 22, 2019 10:27 pm

> Amazing that it can make money with such limited opening hours; would be intresting to hear from anyone who gets to visit.

Post by **zante** » Mon Oct 07, 2019 7:01 pm

Dead. Up for sale as ‘exciting commercial development opportunity of 0.5 acres.

A few years ago there was a thread about crowdfunding a strip pub. If ever there was an opportunity this is it.

What went wrong;
Rebranding and refitting as an upmarket club when noone wanted it and the clients were not into that sort of place.
Ditching the agency to save money - same 4 dancers bored the punters.
Putting the price of drinks up to upmarket club prices
Putting the door price up to £5 off peak, £10 peak
Closing day times
Not reliably being open
Not doing any form of social media. Just throwing the doors open isn’t enough
Rebranding it with a poop name

Good points;
3 bedroom flat upstairs, could be rented out for minimum £1250 a month in this area, even right on Watling Street..
4 (or 6) hotel rooms outside which used to be fully let at £55 a night; £1500 a month.
A sympathetic local authority with a low licence fee.
It’s ready to open on day one.

buntycitron · Post by **buntycitron** » Tue Oct 22, 2019 7:40 pm

definite opportunity for someone brave

saltydog · Post by **saltydog** » Wed Oct 23, 2019 5:50 pm

Not brave stupid.

Reliant on truckers as little or no passing trade - why it put strippers on in the first place.

Went the same way as the much missed Annie in Vauxhall. Tried to go upmarket and lost its soul.

The strip pub is sadly now pretty much dead and I cannot see a rebirth.

Back in the day a boozer (and I use that word deliberately, ) could put on strippers on a Fridsy lunchtime or a Sunday afternoon as part of a package of events.

My grandparents ran pubs in South London 40+ years ago and had strippers on Sunday afternoon followed by bingo. It all rubbed along and no one got hurt. These days it's all wrapped in rules and regs.

So its clubs (which I hate,) the odd party - but as I don't go to pubs any more don't get invited (if anyone wants to invite me in and around SE London pm me,) but pubs are now pushed to the periphery and will struggle.

*UndressedToKill.com

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