XX CLOSED AL3 3HB Junction9Exotic (former Waggon & Horses)

[Tyke]

Mentioned in the Times http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/u ... 025754.ece

Tyke

[venus100]

After reading that I can guess what they are doing right. How long before the council jump in and start treating us like 5 y/o?

[rick4859b]

Guess the lack of public transport puts some people off...however, I've been doing some digging around on the web and I've noticed that the local 34 bus (operated by Centrebus) runs through Flamstead from St Albans and Dunstable! Timetable here: http://www.centrebus.co.uk/H&BTT's/34-030907.html

Although not that frequent, the times of the services also tie in quite nicely with some Thameslink services:
http://www.firstcapitalconnect.co.uk/co ... tl_web.pdf

http://www.firstcapitalconnect.co.uk/co ... monfri.pdf
http://www.firstcapitalconnect.co.uk/co ... monfri.pdf

and pick up from right outside St Albans City station.

If it's all you crack it up to be (which I'm sure it is), I expect I'll be paying a visit in the not-too-distant future. However, their website isn't doing a very good job of loading right now!

I tried out the 34 bus the other day. It works fine (although the service is only every hour or so); ask the driver for a fare to Flamstead, and get off at Chequer's Hill.
From the stop, you then walk along the main road 5mins to the Waggon&Horses. Contrary to another report here, there is a pavement so it's not suicidal However the road is very busy and I wouldn't recommend trying to cross it when you're drunk...

Once there, relax and enjoy I spent a very nice hour or so there, 3 girls, one was pushy for dances, but the other 2 were fun to talk to and put on good dances.

[Crusty030354]

Great afternoon session with Estee, Gia & Ruth.

Where were you guys?

[buntycitron]

heading there now ...

[jd62]

First time here for four years. Has not changed aart from the flimsy net curtain loosely dividing an area for private dances.

Arrived at 6:30 on a Saturday and not exactly many customers. By 7:40 there were three girls for the evening shift (the audition dancer on the tease website was Dutch Daniele) and four customers.

This odd in the middle of nowhere venue somehow appeals to me as my idea of a strip pub.

[jd62]

Was back here earlier today. Very quiet afternoon few customers and those that did come tended not to stay that long. The positive was getting a private dance was very easy.

As I was there quite a while had plenty of the floor show as well. Good afternoon for me at least but not do for the girls.

[Flamboy]

For some reason they have decided the blackout curtains aren't good enough and boarded over the windows. Now it looks derelict and totally unloved. Not sure if inside has changed; outside has definately lost 100% of its charm.

[jd62]

The Waggon is undergoing big changes. The internals are being totally redeveloped albeit a little slowly. It is to become more like a club than the pub it has always been. Shame in a way as just fixing up the place would have been IMHO a better option. The description I was given was table service, three poles, bar on the left as you go in kitchen removed so as to make more space and no pool table. The girls will have a changing room upstairs.

I am here every two weeks with one of the girls and so have seen the slow changes already at the moment it looks inside rundown whilst they behind temporary plasterboard build the new bar.

[zante]

Sounds like a genius move when a large proportion of trade is from the lorry park next door!

[Fat Controller]

With all the changes taking place can anyone advise if private dance's are still available and if the quality is as high? Am thinking of visiting next Monday, but don't want a wasted journey..


Fat Controller

[The Great Smell Of Brute]

Can't comment on what goes on inside, but the exterior has gone from being bright orange to bright pink!

[zante]

You're getting confused with The Vic :p It was bright red before - see pic on page one.

[zante]

And now it's half clad in timber for that authentic swiss chalet next to a lorry park look.

[jd62]

Has anyone else heard the rumour or more specifically can confirm, this venue is to close on Friday 30th September ?

Seems they had not accounted for the cost of the strip licence in turning into a club as part of the refurbishment.

[liliya266]

As far as I know this is not true as I have bookings here to the new year.

[zante]

I very much doubt there is any truth in that rumour - Hertfordshire has a very low fee, which changed very little with the new regulations. It is changing from a pub to a club, which may be the reason why that rumour has come about.

[jd62]

I doubted this myself, especially given the refurbishment and change to a club. However it does not surprise me they would overlook the change in the costs of a license.

[zante]

Refurbishment complete.

Clearly marked as 'Exotic Dancers' outside.

Still open.

No longer has a live website.

No longer part of Tease. (In a move which surely has to be a point of no return in their slip from their position as premier agency; leaves them with just one full time pub)

[Spartacus]

Does anyone have any idea how to find out who is performing and when?

[Abdulh1962]

Try www.junction9exoticdancers.co.uk

[eroticon6]

Things to note - stopped on my way up the M1 yesterday evening.

It's now all wood-clad outside, instead of that stylish red.

The refurb isn't complete inside - down the far end by the bogs the new chairs are still wrapped up, and it looks like the builders are still in! Present concerete floor finish is interesting, but provides a decent grip for shoes.

Definitely more of the look of a club than a pub, which may not be all bad.

Two poles in there now. Currently, seats are quite close to one: when Ali took a swing, she hit a drink. Well caught, that chap!

Entrance is £5, and all drinks except spirits, wine and champagne are £3. Makes a nonsense of my "lime and soda, I'm driving!"

Natalia and Ali were pretty good: with fewer than six of us in, they did six strips in an hour. Both young and nubile, and very happy.

Don't know about the private dance prices: now in a more solid booth near the bar, instead of the old net-curtained area. The website quoted above says £20 for PDS.

Well worth the stopping, and for a total of £14 it made a reasonable alternative to a couple of coffees at a service area.

[Victor23]

A dancer told me that the house takes £9 out of every £20 private dance fee. Can this be true?

Vic

[Victor23]

I'm now told that in fact the house takes "only" £8 out of every £20, which is still scandalous.

My informant - a very popular dancer - says she worked there a few times, but not any more, because of the take. She drove some distance to be there, saving the hassle of public transport but can do better closer to her home.

(The WHHW takes £6 out of £20 but several popular girls have found the journey there , 50 or so minutes from Marylebone, too much.)

Vic

[zante]

Both charge a hefty house fee too.